As I'm not sure whether by "other comment" you mean mine or one I've linked you to in the above comment, I'm going to go ahead and send you here (http://community.livejournal.com/figment_tree/37410.html?thread=232482#t232482), where I address the pedophile question. But I reiterate, it really, really, REALLY doesn't matter. Roxas NEVER gives off the childish vibe. Please, take the word of someone who is nauseated by shouta and despites its existence as a genre; Axel is not a pedophile, because Nobody!Roxas is not a child.
Okay, first. I don't buy that Axel and Roxas were lovers pre-game. I think they were very good friends, period. Because when Roxas leaves the Organization (and very obviously Axel), he says that no one would miss him [if he died]. Axel's objection -- "That's not true! ....I would." -- is ignored by Roxas. I don't know if it's been mentioned to you, but in the novels, it states that Roxas HEARS what Axel says but doesn't believe him, because he thinks Nobodies don't have emotions, and thusly, that Axel CAN'T miss him.
This works if they're friends; it doesn't work if they're lovers. Even if they're just having sex with no strings, I can't imagine that, if they were in a Relationship of some sort, it wouldn't at least OCCUR to Roxas that Axel might mean what he says there. So, no. They weren't lovers.
They are, however, extremely, extremely slashy. You really have to play the game to see it for yourself -- the way Axel talks about Roxas, the soft way, is just too compelling. Especially given that Axel, well.
Let's put it simply: Axel is a BASTARD. In Chain of Memories, he takes out or causes others to take out half the Organization, including people who obviously considered him a friend. He and Larxene seem, in the manga, to enjoy each other's company -- and yet he betrays her and gets her killed without a second thought. Indeed, with the most evil SMIRK on his face. He kills Vexen, or so we think, just to gain Marluxia's trust -- even though he claims, when he fights Marluxia, that he's killing traitors to the Organization, and Vexen was loyal.
Axel kills people he likes without blinking.
Then enter KHII. And Axel, this same incredible bastard who actively enjoyed hurting people and playing with their heads, is falling all over himself for Roxas. When he self-destructs to save Sora, it's something he would've done for Roxas. Someone who seemed to find murder a good way of amusing himself sacrificed himself for someone else.
(Also, in the vein of things he says to Roxas that sound vaguely bitter-ex, Axel's battle cry this time around is "Burn, baby." Now, Hades says something kind of similar, and it's clearly mockery, but Axel doesn't say "baby" like he's taunting Roxas. He says it like he'd say Roxas's name. The whole line is ANGRY, not snarky or playful in the least. "'Baby'? Why would that be taunting? Oh, that's just what I CALL you, didn't you know?")
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As I'm not sure whether by "other comment" you mean mine or one I've linked you to in the above comment, I'm going to go ahead and send you here (http://community.livejournal.com/figment_tree/37410.html?thread=232482#t232482), where I address the pedophile question. But I reiterate, it really, really, REALLY doesn't matter. Roxas NEVER gives off the childish vibe. Please, take the word of someone who is nauseated by shouta and despites its existence as a genre; Axel is not a pedophile, because Nobody!Roxas is not a child.
Okay, first. I don't buy that Axel and Roxas were lovers pre-game. I think they were very good friends, period. Because when Roxas leaves the Organization (and very obviously Axel), he says that no one would miss him [if he died]. Axel's objection -- "That's not true! ....I would." -- is ignored by Roxas. I don't know if it's been mentioned to you, but in the novels, it states that Roxas HEARS what Axel says but doesn't believe him, because he thinks Nobodies don't have emotions, and thusly, that Axel CAN'T miss him.
This works if they're friends; it doesn't work if they're lovers. Even if they're just having sex with no strings, I can't imagine that, if they were in a Relationship of some sort, it wouldn't at least OCCUR to Roxas that Axel might mean what he says there. So, no. They weren't lovers.
They are, however, extremely, extremely slashy. You really have to play the game to see it for yourself -- the way Axel talks about Roxas, the soft way, is just too compelling. Especially given that Axel, well.
Let's put it simply: Axel is a BASTARD. In Chain of Memories, he takes out or causes others to take out half the Organization, including people who obviously considered him a friend. He and Larxene seem, in the manga, to enjoy each other's company -- and yet he betrays her and gets her killed without a second thought. Indeed, with the most evil SMIRK on his face. He kills Vexen, or so we think, just to gain Marluxia's trust -- even though he claims, when he fights Marluxia, that he's killing traitors to the Organization, and Vexen was loyal.
Axel kills people he likes without blinking.
Then enter KHII. And Axel, this same incredible bastard who actively enjoyed hurting people and playing with their heads, is falling all over himself for Roxas. When he self-destructs to save Sora, it's something he would've done for Roxas. Someone who seemed to find murder a good way of amusing himself sacrificed himself for someone else.
And Axel's evolution of caring for Roxas is very interesting. In the beginning, he doesn't seem to understand exactly what's happened to Roxas, and just wants him to come back. When he returns with this seemingly-blasé, "Why'd you have to resist, now I've got these icky orders to KILL you if you don't come with me," and Roxas asks, "But we're friends, aren't we?," Axel rubs the back of his neck and says sort of awkwardly, "Well, yeah, but I'm not getting turned into a Dusk for--" and then jolts and gets this happy puppy dog look on his face: "You remember?!" When they fight again, and Roxas really does seem to remember SOME things, Axel's too hurt, too bitter, to stop fighting. "I'm so FLATTERED," he says in this angry tone, and then there's fire everywhere and he tries to kill Roxas.
(Also, in the vein of things he says to Roxas that sound vaguely bitter-ex, Axel's battle cry this time around is "Burn, baby." Now, Hades says something kind of similar, and it's clearly mockery, but Axel doesn't say "baby" like he's taunting Roxas. He says it like he'd say Roxas's name. The whole line is ANGRY, not snarky or playful in the least. "'Baby'? Why would that be taunting? Oh, that's just what I CALL you, didn't you know?")
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